A must know for everyone reading, Cypressus III aka Mr. Daniel Hill has just posted here his collection of liturgical items. They are:
2 black tunicles (1 with matching maniple and stole)
1 gold tunicle.
1 gold humeral veil.
1 gold gothic chasuble with stole.
1 red gothic chasuble with stole and matching burse.
1 gold roman chasuble.
1 violet lectern hanging.
1 weird florally stole.
3 burses (red, white, violet)
1 lace alb.
1 soutane.
2 surplices.
1 puginesque monstrance (needs restoring).
Look, I can't believe he gets away with it! If I had even one item of sorts I'm sure I'd be locked away in a monastary!
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I;ll give them to my brother when he becomes a priest.
Sorry for the comment in the earlier post, was in a bad mood with Catholic young men in particular.
Please accept my apology - sounds like a nice collection you've got there!
Rebecca
Com'on out with it! What's wrong with us! I'm sure it's not just me that has issues with Catholic young women...they don't seems to go for single guys in vestments...
Oh gosh...what a question!
Well I've run in to many so called "good catholic guys" who, when it comes down to it, are anything but in their behavior. I won't go into detail on that because its kinda personal in nature.
There are those who are very orthodox but who just don't have very much respect for girls and don't really "bother" with them at all until they want a wife and kids.
I'm not for one second saying you all are like that - I was just in a bad mood at the fact that I knew precious few that were not one of these two catagories! The vestments did not worry me, it was your comment that his girlfriend was in the dark that struck me as being unfair and leading said girl on. If that is not the case then I stand corrected.
Would be nice to meet a good, orthadox, humble and respectful catholic young man. Well that's what prayer is for isn't it!
Rebecca
Yeah. I'm sure it's not the case... it just sounded good at the time!
Haha! Without sparking another debate right now, you make a good call though. Catholic boys don't tend to bother with good Catholic girls until they want to marry that's kind of true. But that may be also because of the stereotype orthodox girl who wants to marry as soon as she falls in love and will nag until he proposes (that's happened before!) or won't wait and will rush off elsewhere. This is regardless of age.
I think everyone knows I'm after the intelligent, orthodox, Catholic girl.
Daniel, have you ever considerd donating the vestments to a churh in need?
My great Uncle used to donate stuff like that and books as well to seminaries back in his old country where there was great need for them as it was still under communist rule then and there were plenty of seminarians!
I'll give you that one too aaron. I remember being shocked the first time I had lunch with a group of young orthadox catholic women and all they could talk about was getting a husband asap!
On the other hand, girls don't want to be led on to think a relationship will end in marriage only to have years of their lives wasted waiting - and then it dosn't happen!
Man, it's a wonder anyone gets married these days!
Rebecca
Well Monica, that is the idea- sort of. The problem is the only reason i have these is becuase people don't want them- most of it is stuff priests were throwing out! I do hope to give them to someone who i know will use them well- just have to find out who.
Yes I agree with Aaron regarding catholic women- they are often (definately not always) crazily focused on being wed asap and are often extremely prudish. There is a problem I think today in that we try to live a catholic culture in a secular feminist one. There are not enough Men's clubs around for guys to be Men. In my experience, men who frequent proper and wholesome 'men's clubs' are far more respectful and chivalrous to women.
I was lucky- my girlfriend was a non-catholic so i didn't have to worry about her being a 'mad catholic girl.' 5yrs is a long time though, might have to do someting about that.....
oh yeah i forgot to add that I also have two matching white tunicles in need of restoration.
Chivalry needs to be returned. I was in the unibar a little while back and met a couple of girls. They put their hand out to shake to I gently clasped their hand in mine. Then I was given a serve about not shaking and not being "firm". I of course argued that they were of the fairer sex and should be treated more gently! An interesting first conversation after meeting them.
This is another topic which I must write about when time... I now have to keep track of them all...
Please bring chivalry back!
Not all of us are prudish either - often the guys can be though, in my experience.
Rebecca
Well, I thought I might just speak up for the Catholic girls who just want to get married.
Now if any of you watched any older movies, it was quite a common phenomenon for boys to have girlfriends who nagged and just wanted to get married. So you see it actually isn't just a "Catholic" girl thing but a girl thing in general. But, since moral standards in society today are so low non-Catholic girls probably don't consider marriage until their second or third child and even then they still might believe that they could live better without a man. It's the curse of the feminism that burns bras and requires women to become manly if not men.
On the other hand I don't think that it is healthy for girls to pine for marriage like that. I understand how they must feel, I feel like I'm running out of time myself and I'm not 21 yet! But I do believe that in this case, these feeling should be kept to oneself or if need be shared with someone with similar worries.
only moniker... relax... don't worry... ther are plenty of us guys that don't want to even think about marriage or even 'going out' until we've finished uni.
Most guys needs to feel financially secure and able to raise a family before marriage -- this is later now and so therefore will marriage.
Crikey, I don't think I have much chance of marrying before 30!
The 'curse of feminism?' Are you for real? I don't want to cause offence but exactly how many bra-burning feminists do you know? As someone deeply involved in the feminist movement I can tell you I have not met one woman! You see rather than focusing on women becoming 'manly' as you seem to think feminism requires, the movement is focused on acheiving things such as equal pay for equal work and full control over women's bodies.
To be honest the notion that feminists are aspiring to be like men is somewhat ridiculous.
In addition I would believe that it is somewhat ridiculous to make the widespread assumption that non-Catholic women do not want to get married until their second or third child. Only 18% of ppparents in this country are single parents- many of these would have been from the death of one spouse, divorce or separation. In fact it rather staggers me that you could put all of 'non-catholic girls' into this category. Much less that you can blame it on the moral standards of society.
Better go I hear my biological clock ticking and I have another bra to burn.
I agree with the previous post. I think that Moniker's post is very judgemental for someone who should be preaching tolerance. As a "non-Catholic" you have completely disrespected me, you may as well have labelled me a whore. Personally, I probably guarantee that I have the same desire to get married as you and your Catholic buddies. Look, I am so disgusted and appalled at your narrow-minded attitude and comments on so many levels I can't even begin to rebut without writing about 3000 words. And just for the record it worries me more that there so many intolerant people out there with your attitudes, so eager to judge and make grand generalisations about their fellow man/woman than babies being born out of wedlock. I say thank God these children have parent/s to care for them rather than being in a foster home or homeless.
Not the same anonymous as above.
:)
Dear Anonymouses I shall reply to your posts on the Women's fertility topic
I cannot believe such an interesting/heated conversation emerged from a post on vestments!! i see what the hot button issue is these days...
Look, to each her own. But for the girls who don't feel like doing the 'dating' thing and want to get serious from the get go (which is not me, but I do understand the mindset) - I think you need to be realistic that the average 21 year olds just aren't gonna be into it. Maybe meet some older guys.
- Jovina
Oh that's what happens when you get these people together!! But veen I can't believe the deflection!
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